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	<title>Comments on: Congressman: God Decides When &#8216;The Earth Will End&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: God Decides When the Earth Will end?&#160;&#124;&#160;My blog</title>
		<link>http://forcechange.com/2009/04/04/congressman-god-decides-when-the-earth-will-end/comment-page-1/#comment-9951</link>
		<dc:creator>God Decides When the Earth Will end?&#160;&#124;&#160;My blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 05:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kooperg</title>
		<link>http://forcechange.com/2009/04/04/congressman-god-decides-when-the-earth-will-end/comment-page-1/#comment-8966</link>
		<dc:creator>Kooperg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, in America there is no official seperation of church and state. But e.g. Turkey (muslim country) DOES have this. Now think about that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, in America there is no official seperation of church and state. But e.g. Turkey (muslim country) DOES have this. Now think about that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kooperg</title>
		<link>http://forcechange.com/2009/04/04/congressman-god-decides-when-the-earth-will-end/comment-page-1/#comment-8965</link>
		<dc:creator>Kooperg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which Islam Imam scares you, then? 
Cuz I can name hundreds of scary Christian Priests (raping young boys and stuff, denying global warming, denying people the use of condoms, and much, much more...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which Islam Imam scares you, then?<br />
Cuz I can name hundreds of scary Christian Priests (raping young boys and stuff, denying global warming, denying people the use of condoms, and much, much more&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Kooperg</title>
		<link>http://forcechange.com/2009/04/04/congressman-god-decides-when-the-earth-will-end/comment-page-1/#comment-8963</link>
		<dc:creator>Kooperg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, but no thanks, I&#039;m a happy atheist.
Btw, England is NOT Europe in my book. But, you are of course correct when assuming that we still have legacy laws and jurisprudence that refers to God, but at least we are not so stupid as to &#039;make up&#039; new legislation with God in mind. 
But you are right, generalizing is not very smart. But, as a defense, I was just typing my feelings. The &#039; stupid Americans &#039; part was not based on this article/video; i knew about that one on forehand.
ps I&#039;m from The Netherlands (Holland), so please bash my country if you feel i offended you (We are used to this already, the Americans threatening out country with INVASION because of the International Court in The Hague, saying they will invade the very day we will try to prosecute any american soldier (or, ahum, &#039;hero&#039;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, but no thanks, I&#8217;m a happy atheist.<br />
Btw, England is NOT Europe in my book. But, you are of course correct when assuming that we still have legacy laws and jurisprudence that refers to God, but at least we are not so stupid as to &#8216;make up&#8217; new legislation with God in mind.<br />
But you are right, generalizing is not very smart. But, as a defense, I was just typing my feelings. The &#8216; stupid Americans &#8216; part was not based on this article/video; i knew about that one on forehand.<br />
ps I&#8217;m from The Netherlands (Holland), so please bash my country if you feel i offended you (We are used to this already, the Americans threatening out country with INVASION because of the International Court in The Hague, saying they will invade the very day we will try to prosecute any american soldier (or, ahum, &#8216;hero&#8217;).</p>
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		<title>By: beebee</title>
		<link>http://forcechange.com/2009/04/04/congressman-god-decides-when-the-earth-will-end/comment-page-1/#comment-8947</link>
		<dc:creator>beebee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would advise that anyone who speaks like that. needs to find a religion and soon or you  may  be sorry. he is doing nothing but speaking his beliefs and the truth. you will see and i will pray for all ya&#039;s 

god bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would advise that anyone who speaks like that. needs to find a religion and soon or you  may  be sorry. he is doing nothing but speaking his beliefs and the truth. you will see and i will pray for all ya&#8217;s </p>
<p>god bless</p>
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		<title>By: fotomatt</title>
		<link>http://forcechange.com/2009/04/04/congressman-god-decides-when-the-earth-will-end/comment-page-1/#comment-8918</link>
		<dc:creator>fotomatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s so much Stupid going on around here, it&#039;s hard to know where to start (or whether to even bother.)

But here&#039;s the important point:

Yes, atmospheric CO2 could increase to 10-times the level it&#039;s currently at and the planet would still be here, doing just fine.

But humans would NOT still be here. We&#039;d be long dead. Terminally Extinct. As would probably the large majority of species alive today.

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As for Congressman Shimkus, my concern isn&#039;t that he chose to read a passage from his particular version of the Christian Bible (though that&#039;s not a good sign, generally), but instead it&#039;s that he appears to lack some of the essential skills necessary to effectively carry out the role of a federal legislator... you know, little things like: Logic, Reason, and the ability to think critically. 

Really, aren&#039;t there any smart people in that Congressional district?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s so much Stupid going on around here, it&#8217;s hard to know where to start (or whether to even bother.)</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the important point:</p>
<p>Yes, atmospheric CO2 could increase to 10-times the level it&#8217;s currently at and the planet would still be here, doing just fine.</p>
<p>But humans would NOT still be here. We&#8217;d be long dead. Terminally Extinct. As would probably the large majority of species alive today.</p>
<p>&#8212;-</p>
<p>As for Congressman Shimkus, my concern isn&#8217;t that he chose to read a passage from his particular version of the Christian Bible (though that&#8217;s not a good sign, generally), but instead it&#8217;s that he appears to lack some of the essential skills necessary to effectively carry out the role of a federal legislator&#8230; you know, little things like: Logic, Reason, and the ability to think critically. </p>
<p>Really, aren&#8217;t there any smart people in that Congressional district?</p>
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		<title>By: Not a "Christian"</title>
		<link>http://forcechange.com/2009/04/04/congressman-god-decides-when-the-earth-will-end/comment-page-1/#comment-8858</link>
		<dc:creator>Not a "Christian"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies, I made a typo earlier (although I&#039;m not sure the reply posted as my browser is being off today). There are some Christians who believe in evolutionary theory. I don&#039;t believe there&#039;s anything wrong with citing a Biblical passage and also supporting something based on evolutionary theory.

The National Academy of Sciences has addressed this as well:
&quot;Today, many religious denominations accept that biological evolution has produced the diversity of living things over billions of years of Earth’s history. Many have issued statements observing that evolution and the tenets of their faiths are compatible. Scientists and theologians have written eloquently about their awe and wonder at the history of the universe and of life on this planet, explaining that they see no conflict between their faith in God and the evidence for evolution. Religious denominations that do not accept the occurrence of evolution tend to be those that believe in strictly literal interpretations of religious texts.&quot; 	”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies, I made a typo earlier (although I&#8217;m not sure the reply posted as my browser is being off today). There are some Christians who believe in evolutionary theory. I don&#8217;t believe there&#8217;s anything wrong with citing a Biblical passage and also supporting something based on evolutionary theory.</p>
<p>The National Academy of Sciences has addressed this as well:<br />
&#8220;Today, many religious denominations accept that biological evolution has produced the diversity of living things over billions of years of Earth’s history. Many have issued statements observing that evolution and the tenets of their faiths are compatible. Scientists and theologians have written eloquently about their awe and wonder at the history of the universe and of life on this planet, explaining that they see no conflict between their faith in God and the evidence for evolution. Religious denominations that do not accept the occurrence of evolution tend to be those that believe in strictly literal interpretations of religious texts.&#8221; 	”</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what that congressman said is the most asinine thing ive ever heard. That is the worst a straw man argument can ever get...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what that congressman said is the most asinine thing ive ever heard. That is the worst a straw man argument can ever get&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Done</title>
		<link>http://forcechange.com/2009/04/04/congressman-god-decides-when-the-earth-will-end/comment-page-1/#comment-8767</link>
		<dc:creator>John Done</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which god is that, Chase? Obviously not the Christian god, or any god of any other major religion I can think of. They all seem intent on having their followers impose their belief on others. Entitlement to belief sounds more like a secular value, not a religious one.

Besides, this has nothing to do with freedom of religion. The fact is that religion is being used to impose certain policies on us all, despite the need for facts to be presented for those policies to be adopted. This inanity on the part of the Governor is flying in the face of facts. If this is allowed, any asshole who can ascribe their irrelevant and dangerous beliefs to a &quot;higher power&quot; can use said dogma as though it&#039;s allowed to be part of our policy-making judgments. It&#039;s not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which god is that, Chase? Obviously not the Christian god, or any god of any other major religion I can think of. They all seem intent on having their followers impose their belief on others. Entitlement to belief sounds more like a secular value, not a religious one.</p>
<p>Besides, this has nothing to do with freedom of religion. The fact is that religion is being used to impose certain policies on us all, despite the need for facts to be presented for those policies to be adopted. This inanity on the part of the Governor is flying in the face of facts. If this is allowed, any asshole who can ascribe their irrelevant and dangerous beliefs to a &#8220;higher power&#8221; can use said dogma as though it&#8217;s allowed to be part of our policy-making judgments. It&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Luc Petard</title>
		<link>http://forcechange.com/2009/04/04/congressman-god-decides-when-the-earth-will-end/comment-page-1/#comment-8747</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Luc Petard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My father always told me that there probably is intelligent life somewhere in the universe - and if it ever finds us we&#039;re in big trouble.

This Shimkus guy is a dangerous ignoramus, unable to separate his supernatural delusions from objective reality and using that to irresponsibly ignore the fact of human-caused climate change. Someone as arrogant and butt-*stupid* as him needs to be impeached for dereliction of duty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father always told me that there probably is intelligent life somewhere in the universe &#8211; and if it ever finds us we&#8217;re in big trouble.</p>
<p>This Shimkus guy is a dangerous ignoramus, unable to separate his supernatural delusions from objective reality and using that to irresponsibly ignore the fact of human-caused climate change. Someone as arrogant and butt-*stupid* as him needs to be impeached for dereliction of duty.</p>
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		<title>By: DuckPhup</title>
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		<dc:creator>DuckPhup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 06:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rep. John Shimkus... R-ill. That would be MENTALLY ill... right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rep. John Shimkus&#8230; R-ill. That would be MENTALLY ill&#8230; right?</p>
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		<title>By: Greyman</title>
		<link>http://forcechange.com/2009/04/04/congressman-god-decides-when-the-earth-will-end/comment-page-1/#comment-8728</link>
		<dc:creator>Greyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did he refer to the Pre-Cambrian period and dinosaurs yet at very the same time assert that the Bible was the infallible word of God?  Seriously, can he not make up his mind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did he refer to the Pre-Cambrian period and dinosaurs yet at very the same time assert that the Bible was the infallible word of God?  Seriously, can he not make up his mind?</p>
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		<title>By: The New Atheist</title>
		<link>http://forcechange.com/2009/04/04/congressman-god-decides-when-the-earth-will-end/comment-page-1/#comment-8718</link>
		<dc:creator>The New Atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy so say with the election of Obama, idiots like this guy are enjoying less and less influence.

www.TheNewAtheist.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy so say with the election of Obama, idiots like this guy are enjoying less and less influence.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.TheNewAtheist.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.TheNewAtheist.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: yogesh Saxena</title>
		<link>http://forcechange.com/2009/04/04/congressman-god-decides-when-the-earth-will-end/comment-page-1/#comment-8667</link>
		<dc:creator>yogesh Saxena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Constitutional law to offer separation refers to legislative and executive actions by  saying it at a Congressional subcommittee hearing</description>
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		<title>By: One-Lamb</title>
		<link>http://forcechange.com/2009/04/04/congressman-god-decides-when-the-earth-will-end/comment-page-1/#comment-8666</link>
		<dc:creator>One-Lamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope more men of God who love God&#039;s Word and God Himself will keep reading God&#039;s Word so that some might believe and be saved, whether it&#039;s before kings, governor&#039;s or in the scbool house. PRAISE GOD - let His Voice &#039;be&#039; heard in all the world. 

This IS the Great Commission in living color!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope more men of God who love God&#8217;s Word and God Himself will keep reading God&#8217;s Word so that some might believe and be saved, whether it&#8217;s before kings, governor&#8217;s or in the scbool house. PRAISE GOD &#8211; let His Voice &#8216;be&#8217; heard in all the world. </p>
<p>This IS the Great Commission in living color!!</p>
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