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	<title>Comments on: CA Prop 7 Opposed by Strange Coalition of Energy Co.&#8217;s and Environmentalists</title>
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		<title>By: Marianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly! That&#039;s why we should vote yes on this proposition. It&#039;s so hard to believe s group when they have been accepting endorsements left and right from big brand companies. This proposition is a step forward for our future. People always want to take action to fight global warming. Here&#039;s your chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly! That&#8217;s why we should vote yes on this proposition. It&#8217;s so hard to believe s group when they have been accepting endorsements left and right from big brand companies. This proposition is a step forward for our future. People always want to take action to fight global warming. Here&#8217;s your chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Brianna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, I had no idea about Clorox and the Sierra Club. I wonder what the back story is on that? 

I see a lot of nonprofits taking corporate &quot;sponsorships&quot; lately. This is why I have to watch a mini-commercial from Chevron every time I turn on the Jim Lehrer Newshour. Kinda defeats the purpose of being nonprofit or public I think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, I had no idea about Clorox and the Sierra Club. I wonder what the back story is on that? </p>
<p>I see a lot of nonprofits taking corporate &#8220;sponsorships&#8221; lately. This is why I have to watch a mini-commercial from Chevron every time I turn on the Jim Lehrer Newshour. Kinda defeats the purpose of being nonprofit or public I think?</p>
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		<title>By: Marianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some things I don&#039;t agree with them on. Like their partnership with Clorox. PG&amp;E = money the same way clorox does. Here is the story http://www.manufacturing.net/News-Sierra-Club-Clorox-Deal-Sparks-Feud.aspx?menuid=250.

Also, their endorsement on twisty bulbs is something that really peeves me. The main component is mercury is hazardous to our health and also to the environment because it takes years for it to bio-degrade. Sure the average twisty bulb contains only small amounts. But how about a thousand, or a hundred thousand bulbs? Advancements on reducing global warming pollution are effective but also contain their flaws. But we can all agree that they are at least a step in the right direction, much like voting Yes on prop 7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some things I don&#8217;t agree with them on. Like their partnership with Clorox. PG&amp;E = money the same way clorox does. Here is the story <a href="http://www.manufacturing.net/News-Sierra-Club-Clorox-Deal-Sparks-Feud.aspx?menuid=250" rel="nofollow">http://www.manufacturing.net/News-Sierra-Club-Clorox-Deal-Sparks-Feud.aspx?menuid=250</a>.</p>
<p>Also, their endorsement on twisty bulbs is something that really peeves me. The main component is mercury is hazardous to our health and also to the environment because it takes years for it to bio-degrade. Sure the average twisty bulb contains only small amounts. But how about a thousand, or a hundred thousand bulbs? Advancements on reducing global warming pollution are effective but also contain their flaws. But we can all agree that they are at least a step in the right direction, much like voting Yes on prop 7.</p>
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		<title>By: forcechange</title>
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		<dc:creator>forcechange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Marianne, thanks for the additional info on this. I find it very confusing myself. One thing is clear-- the opponents of Prop 7 are very well funded and are squeezing every last drop out of the Sierra Club position. I just saw a huge &quot;Sierra Club says &#039;No on 7&#039;&quot; ad on the NYTimes. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marianne, thanks for the additional info on this. I find it very confusing myself. One thing is clear&#8211; the opponents of Prop 7 are very well funded and are squeezing every last drop out of the Sierra Club position. I just saw a huge &#8220;Sierra Club says &#8216;No on 7&#8242;&#8221; ad on the NYTimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Marianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 03:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a lot of great information out there about this proposition. I was very unclear about what to vote on this proposition at first. I figure that on paper Sierra Club is against it. But in reality they are for it. Can you make sense of this piece of an article I pulled off Sierra&#039;s website...

&quot;And considering how frequently the Sierra Club and others keep finding coal mining companies conducting illegal mining (see Ison Rock, VA; Jellico, TN; and Fish Trap Lake, KY) and releasing unsafe amounts of toxic selenium (see Zeb Mountain, TN; and Hobet and Fola, WV) – you can see how this is just another excuse for these companies to avoid environmental regulations.&quot;
http://sierraclub.typepad.com/compass/2008/10/agency-statemen.html

This confuses me of how can Sierra Club possibly be against proposition 7 if they are worried about the same things prop 7 is trying to fix. We all know that the coal industry is harming the earth and us period. This is why I&#039;m choosing to vote yes on 7. I was also a little surprised to see that Sierra Club even agreed to throw their name down to side with PG&amp;E on tv commercials. Is that weird to you too? 

I found this really great blog that helped clear up a lot of my questions, hope it does for you too.
http://tellinit.livejournal.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot of great information out there about this proposition. I was very unclear about what to vote on this proposition at first. I figure that on paper Sierra Club is against it. But in reality they are for it. Can you make sense of this piece of an article I pulled off Sierra&#8217;s website&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;And considering how frequently the Sierra Club and others keep finding coal mining companies conducting illegal mining (see Ison Rock, VA; Jellico, TN; and Fish Trap Lake, KY) and releasing unsafe amounts of toxic selenium (see Zeb Mountain, TN; and Hobet and Fola, WV) – you can see how this is just another excuse for these companies to avoid environmental regulations.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://sierraclub.typepad.com/compass/2008/10/agency-statemen.html" rel="nofollow">http://sierraclub.typepad.com/compass/2008/10/agency-statemen.html</a></p>
<p>This confuses me of how can Sierra Club possibly be against proposition 7 if they are worried about the same things prop 7 is trying to fix. We all know that the coal industry is harming the earth and us period. This is why I&#8217;m choosing to vote yes on 7. I was also a little surprised to see that Sierra Club even agreed to throw their name down to side with PG&amp;E on tv commercials. Is that weird to you too? </p>
<p>I found this really great blog that helped clear up a lot of my questions, hope it does for you too.<br />
<a href="http://tellinit.livejournal.com/" rel="nofollow">http://tellinit.livejournal.com/</a></p>
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